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Police van driver drinks at wheel

10:30am Thursday 3rd July 2008

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By Mark Stead »

THE search is on for this man – caught on camera driving a police van while holding a cup of coffee.

North Yorkshire Police is studying mobile phone camera footage supplied by The Press which shows a man in control of one of the force’s fleet having a drink while in command of the van he was driving at the time.

The unnamed man was caught on camera by a reader of The Press who spotted him at the junction of Peasholme Green, Jewbury and Foss Islands Road, near the area’s Sainsbury’s store.

Sipping his coffee, he has taken at least one of his hands away from the controls of his vehicle in a casual move which road safety campaigners say can be “dangerous”.

The reader who supplied us with the footage claimed it was taken on Saturday, May 17 – but the force has claimed the vehicle in question, which it says can be recognised due to a piece of plastic hanging from its front windscreen, was under 24-hour guard at a garage at the time.

Having been provided with these pictures, we passed them to police, who are now investigating the incident and looking to see whether an officer was behind the wheel at the time.

“I actually thought it was disgusting,” said the reader who took the picture.

“He was in a marked police vehicle, parked at a red light, and yet he was having a cup of coffee at the wheel and driving with one hand.

“I’m sure that, if the boot had been the other foot, I would have been in trouble.

“I believe it’s irresponsible behaviour, because I don’t believe the fact that you’re driving a police vehicle means you’re beyond reproach – you have to adhere to the law.”

A spokesman for North Yorkshire Police said: “We thank The Press for bringing this matter to our attention.

“Having carried out enquiries, we can confirm the police vehicle in question was in the hands of a third party supplier at the time this photograph was claimed to have been taken.

“We are satisfied that it had not been in use at all on Saturday, May 17. However, despite the confusion about the date, it is apparent that somebody was at the wheel of the police vehicle while holding a drink.

“Enquiries are ongoing to identify the driver and determine if any offences have been committed.”

Under Rule 123 – covered by its ‘Control of the vehicle’ section – the Highway Code states: “You must not…leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road”.

Cathy Keeler, head of campaigns at road safety charity Brake, said: “Any actions which may distract a driver or cause them to lose control of their vehicle, such as eating or drinking, can be dangerous.

“It is clearly not safe to drive while holding a hot drink as any spillages may scald the driver. Brake therefore encourages all drivers to take regular breaks on long journeys in order to have a snack and a drink.”

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bjc, York says...
10:46am Thu 3 Jul 08

Tut Tut !
A police van jumped a red light at the Sim Balk Lane junction a few days ago too - no blue light flashing either.
I thought the rules applied to all of us ? Tch... silly me...

tonezzzznoddedoff, york says...
10:54am Thu 3 Jul 08

I hate people taking these 'sneak pictures' to be right nobody's perfect, and am sure that if somebody had taken a similar pic of a member of the public, the police wouldn't have prosecuted.

THE_BACKER, ACOMB says...
10:56am Thu 3 Jul 08

Is tonezzzznoddedoff some sort of retard?

The police are a joke - and I hope this idiot with his cup of coffee is named and shamed.


Bemused, York says...
11:06am Thu 3 Jul 08

Why can't the Press ever do it right? What about a quote from Deputy Chief Constable Adam Briggs, him of the miserable face and silly moustache, hounder of motorists extraordinaire?

tonezzzznoddedoff, york says...
11:24am Thu 3 Jul 08

Hardly crime of century. zzzzzzz

RobOneighty, York says...
11:58am Thu 3 Jul 08

Nice to see another exciting story. Its also nice to know that the trumped up do-gooders are still out there taking pictures of things that don't really matter.

Don't the Fuzz have enough to do fining motorists without all this rubbish?

marc, york says...
12:14pm Thu 3 Jul 08

If the person who took this picture was so concerned about the action why didn't he/ she give the pictures to the police instead of the press.

Bemused, York says...
12:31pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Call me suspicious, but I detect a number of posts from members of the North Yorks Police Farce. Which one of you is the driver?

Only those with the greatest of vested interests could fail to be outraged at the hypocrisy this story reveals, when you consider that the persecuting of motorists is all the North Yorks Police do.

tonezzzznoddedoff, york says...
12:58pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Bemused wrote:
Call me suspicious, but I detect a number of posts from members of the North Yorks Police Farce. Which one of you is the driver?

Only those with the greatest of vested interests could fail to be outraged at the hypocrisy this story reveals, when you consider that the persecuting of motorists is all the North Yorks Police do.
OK-' Fair Cop.' Hold my hands up,while sat at traffic lights , my mate passed me a slurp of coffee while they were on red, then some glory seeking nobhead snapped my picture on his phone , so yes, I'll lose my job , go on the dole, we'll lose our house,...and there wasn't even any sugar in it .

redr, York says...
2:05pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Just a question, is it an offence to take a quick drink whilst waiting at traffic lights?

old_geezer, york says...
2:06pm Thu 3 Jul 08

" am sure that if somebody had taken a similar pic of a member of the public, the police wouldn't have prosecuted. "
Unfortunately (speaking as a law-abider) some police officers have no sense of proportion. Remember the Scottish force that used a plane to bolster its case against a driver who'd thrown out an apple core on a country road? And there was a prosecution in Yorkshire last year for someone eating at the wheel. Not that I'm in favour of it.

Meanwhile I see the habitually unbelted driving around the city unchallenged by the constabulary, even women (yes, several times, and usually in white vans)in a front seat with small children seated on their laps.

The police routinely ignore certain things (like cycling in footstreets) unless either they're feeling like it that day, or there's a headline-grabbing "crackdown" that doesn't change habitual behaviour.

928, Gmünd says...
3:39pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Drinking a coffee at the lights is neither here nor there is it really, it is only the fact that certain police forces (luckily not North Yorkshire) have overreacted to civilians doing similar in the past that makes people upset when they see the police doing the same.

A bit of common sense is needed all round.

jaycee, York says...
4:30pm Thu 3 Jul 08

I agree with you Gmund about the common sense side of the situation.
However the Press should ask the question to the Chief Constable:
If one of your officers saw a driver drinking at the wheel of a vehicle would they be stopped and prosecuted -yes or no ?

Cozyuk, York says...
6:06pm Thu 3 Jul 08

It's also an offence to use a hand held radio whilst driving..and a mobile phone too. But I see police drivers doing this often.
But a quick swig of a drink while you are sitting at a RED light..? This is a joke, right?

mr guy fawkes, mickbrightstar@aol.com says...
8:00pm Thu 3 Jul 08

isnt it the law that if a vehichle is seen to commit an offence and you cannot say who was at the wheel then the legal owner or registereed keeper is charged with the offence,otherwise we could all say sorry oficer i dont remember who dove my car through the lights at red or the speed camera as i was asleep at the time or drunk and someone else drove me home.

928, Gmünd says...
5:26pm Tue 8 Jul 08

It is not against the law to use a two way radio at the wheel, there is an exemption from the law regarding mobile phones, this exemption applies equally to civilian drivers or the police.

viewer, York says...
10:18pm Mon 28 Jul 08

Right. Just think about this. Read this and then STOP MOANING...

"
Well, Mr. Citizen, it seems you've figured me out.

I seem to fit neatly into the category where you've placed me.
I'm stereotyped, standardized, characterized, classified, grouped, and always typical.

Unfortunately, the reverse is true, I can never figure you out.
From birth you teach your children that I'm the bogeyman,
then you're shocked when they identify with my traditional enemy... the criminal!

You accuse me of coddling criminals... until I catch your kids doing wrong.
You may take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks each day,
but point me out as a loafer for having one cup.

You pride yourself on your manners,
but think nothing of disrupting my meals with your troubles.

You raise hell with the guy who cuts you off in traffic,
but let me catch you doing the same thing and I'm picking on you.

You know all the traffic laws...
but you've never gotten a single ticket you deserve.

You shout "foul" if you observe me driving fast to a call,
but raise the roof if I take more than ten seconds to respond to your complaint.

You call it part of my job if someone strikes me,
but call it police brutality if I strike back.

You wouldn't think of telling your dentist how to pull a tooth or your doctor how to take out an appendix,
yet you are always willing to give me pointers on the law.

You talk to me in a manner that would get you a bloody nose from anyone else,
but expect me to take it without batting an eye.

You yell something's got to be done to fight crime,
but you can't be bothered to get involved.


You have no use for me at all, but of course it's OK if I change a flat for your wife, deliver your child in the back of the patrol car, or perhaps save your son's life with mouth to mouth breathing, or work many hours overtime looking for your lost daughter.

So, Mr. Citizen, you can stand there on your soapbox and rant and rave about the way I do my work, calling me every name in the book,
but never stop to think that your property, family, or maybe even your life depends
on me or one of my buddies.

Yes, Mr. Citizen, it's me... the lousy cop!

The author of this article was Trooper Mitchell Brown of the Virginia State Police, USA. He was killed in the line of duty two months after writing the article.

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